DISQUS

I Bought a Mac: Keeping Gmail, Cell Phone Contacts and Apple’s Address Book in Sync

  • Nick Young · 2 years ago
  • Astorg · 2 years ago
    This will never work. I have tested every possible software solution, whether free or paid, that claims to sync GMail contacts with Apple Address Book and/or a cell phone.

    The only reliable solution for Mac users is to store all contact info on a hosted Microsoft Outlook Server (typically, at a coset of about $10/month). This can then be synced over the air with a BlackBerry. Email can be accessed either using Entourage (which acts as a Outlook client) or Outlook itself via Parallels. Of course Gmail and/or Mail can still be used to access the Outlook server email.

    The advantage of this solution is that all data resides securely in one place (the Microsoft Outlook Server) and is never duplicated or out of sync.
  • carolyn · 2 years ago
    Plaxo at least will sync with Apple Address Book and have it available for you online. I haven't used it, but saw it in someone's signature on a listserv.

    http://www.plaxo.com/downloads/mac
  • Astorg · 2 years ago
    @ ===> Carolyn

    Nope. I tried Plaxo, it was one of the costliest online mistakes I ever made. It so badly wrecked my contcat data, which I hadn't backed up, that I had to manually clean up the damage which took several hours.

    As with all these synchronization tools, it claims to keep everything in sync but actually cannot deliver, and results in a huge number of duplicates being created. plaxo is actually worse than average because it corrupts data. Their forums are full of mesages from people experiencing such problems which never get answered by staff?
  • Till · 2 years ago
    That's a good poinjt: How do you backup your contact data from the different mentioned apps? i.e. AddressBook and Entourage.
  • Astorg · 2 years ago
    @===> Till :

    The whole point of my method is that there is no need to sync! Since the data is kept online, on the web, in a unique Microsoft Outlook Server database (I know, it sucks having to using Microsoft, but they really are the industry standard in this sector).

    AddressBook and entourage can access the server as clients. The most recent version of Entourage can read and write (except for Tasks) while I believe AddressBook can only read. The mobile phone will sync seamless and over the air if you use a BlackBerry, this offers the tightest and most bug-free data synchronisation of all I have tested (use the BES BlackBerry Enterprise Server solution). Most other systems require you to sync your phone over a cable connection, and are unreliable.

    So basically, the only viable solution is:

    Microsoft Outlook Server for storing data + BlackBerry mobile phone with integration via BES + your choice of Outllok via Parallels, Entourage or AddressBook (but the latter at your peril and only one way) for managing data on your Mac.
  • Will · 2 years ago
    I use an app called Spanning Sync to sync my iCal data with my Google Calendar - it's not free but it is quite cheap, $ 25 USD or something for a year's worth.
    It's a great little program that just does the job perfectly. Currently, it does not do contacts/addresses, but I think they're working on that so it might be one to look out for in the future.
    Further to that, I just use iSync to sync iCal/address book with my phone.
    Spanning Sync keeps my mac up to date, and then my mac keeps my phone up to date! Win!
  • Pol · 2 years ago
    I tried ABGMerge, but it didn't work... without messing my Mac AddressBook up !
    Still waiting for THE KILLER APP !
  • Rob · 2 years ago
    I used ABGMerge on August 5, version 0.6, a "new" release... and it did work 100% for me.
  • HeaviKevi · 2 years ago
    Astorg, I am using your recommended steup...Entourage w/ corp exchange server syncd to blackberry via bes. BUT, mesages I send from entourage do not sync to blackberry. everything else syncs great. Any thoughts? I am the only mac user in my office - so I have llittle internal IT support.
  • Astorg · 2 years ago
    @HeaviKevi

    If you are using a BES on your Blackberry AND (repeat, AND) you are connecting to the same Exchange server as the one linked to your BES AND both client applications are set to synchronize all emails with that server, then the "sent" folder in your Exchange server will necessarily contain the same emails, since it will be used as the outgoing server by both mail clients (Entourage and Blackberry). That's the whole point of having that setup which avoids having to worry about synchronization.

    If your Blackberry-sent emails are missing when you connect to the server via Entourage, or vice-versa, there might be several reasons: one possible cause is that Blackberry and Entourage might use different outgoing mail servers (unlikely, but check this one first); another is that your Entourage mail account settings may specify that any emails you SEND do NOT get synchronized with the server.

    If you need further help, message me using the online contact form on my website to gve me details of what you are doing (the link to do so is in the sidebar on the bottom of the Home page).
  • AUdrey · 2 years ago
    I need help syncing my Balckberry with Entourage.... If idon't get my mailing labels done soon I am gonna be a wash-out for Chirstmas Cards....
  • Scott · 1 year ago
    I have been using Plaxo for some time now and it works pretty well, syncing my Mac Address Book, Gmail COntacts and Outlook contacts at work. It isnt perfect but it is pretty close.
  • Damian · 1 year ago
    Instead of using Gmail through the web interface, set it up to work with Mail via IMAP. Now you're using your OS X Address Book for your contacts instead of Gmail's walled-off and weird Contacts "system". (Gmail's system blows anyway, as it randomly adds addresses you e-mail, even if you have no intention of keeping them). So bypass it by using Mail/Address Book.

    Now, if you use a bluetooth phone, and it's no big deal to keep Address Book and your phone synched. And since Mail uses Address Book, you're keeping only two things synched.

    Now ideally Gmail would set up their address book better, and we could have a go-between to do what Spanning Sync is currently doing to keep iCal and Google Calendar synched.
  • Jeff · 1 year ago
    This is an old post, but it has some more recent comments and is still ranked highly for "sync address book gmail", so I figure there's still interest...

    Syncman ( http://wateree.net/syncman ) does full, bidirectional synchronization between Address Book and Gmail.

    I can testify that it's a great product, but then again, I'm the developer... so you might want to just try for yourself. ;-)
  • colin · 1 year ago
    I wrote a post on this here
    it all works great...

    http://flatwords.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/i-got...

    especially now with the iphone I just bought an extra usb lead for £2.95 and keep it plugged in at work so i don't have to think about it, when i plug it in, its all sync-ed up.

    Then Soocial does my contacts - busysync does my calendar
    (pre iphone days - spanning sync did my phone calendar and contacts)

    I'm so happy!!

    C
  • Billy ladd · 1 year ago
    This whole subject is a mine field! My situation is.......I have a MACbook with Entourage and the included iCal and Address Book which updates automatically between themselves. I also have a Plaxo account. I have an iPhone that syncs using iTunes. Then I have a Blackberry that Syncs through Blackberry's software. Finally i have a Nokia N95 that I take on certain trips and that Syncs through iSync after a piece of software from Nokia installed itself. I also have an address book on Gmail but i dont sync it. Any thoughts on how I should manage all of this because invariably I get double or multiple entries all over the place in Calender and missing contacts in others.
    I cant understand why there is not one default set of fields how ever large for any contact based app then life for the whole world would surely be a lot easier.
    Maybe I should start from scratch and get a little black book??
  • Rob · 1 year ago
    You might like to know about a new service called Soocial... it syncs EVERYTHING.

    www.soocial.com Sign up to get an invite - I got my invite in less than a month. This thing works. Really.
  • Astorg · 1 year ago
    @Billy Iadd: The basic principle hasn't changed since this post was written. The only way to avoid the issues you mention (duplicates, missing contacts) is to store ALL your items in one database and sync the various clients (computers, phones, webmail apps) from there.

    Plaxo in my experience engenders duplication and deletions, and so does Spanning Sync. Using an Exchange server and accessing it from a Blackberry (using BES, not BIS) and Entourage is one solution for a Mac user. Another, of course, since the summer, is MobileMe which, despite the adverse publicity it has received, is actually technically a far better product than Exchange (see a post I wrote recently about it here).

    Also, now that Gmail and Google Apps can run under IMAP (which they couldn't when this post was written, it makes sense to use them (with my preference going to Google Apps over Gmail because it means you use your own domain and can take your email address with you if you choose to change). It will work beautifully alongside MobileMe and iCal, Address Book, with no need for duplication iin any of your data.
  • Astorg · 1 year ago
    @Billy Iadd: The basic principle hasn’t changed since this post was written. The only way to avoid the issues you mention (duplicates, missing contacts) is to store ALL your items in one database and sync the various clients (computers, phones, webmail apps) from there.

    Plaxo in my experience engenders duplication and deletions, and so does Spanning Sync. Using an Exchange server and accessing it from a Blackberry (using BES, not BIS) and Entourage is one solution for a Mac user. Another, of course, since the summer, is MobileMe which, despite the adverse publicity it has received, is actually technically a far better product than Exchange.

    Also, now that Gmail and Google Apps can run under IMAP (which they couldn’t when this post was written, it makes sense to use them (with my preference going to Google Apps over Gmail because it means you use your own domain and can take your email address with you if you choose to change). It will work beautifully alongside MobileMe and iCal, Address Book, with no need for duplication iin any of your data.
  • Billy ladd · 1 year ago
    Thanks for your comments Gentlemen. I have sent a request to Soocial - I'll give it a go when I get the invite. As regards an Exchange Server is this something I have to get up and running in the office. We all use individual PCs and Macs and a shared drive so have no server or for that matter a BES! Does that mean I will have to persevere with my current config (or lack of) until someone comes up with a solution for individuals like me?
    I will have a look at Google apps in the meantime and see if it can help me.
    I'll update you with my findings
    Bon Chance!
  • Astorg · 1 year ago
    @Billy Iadd: I haven't tested Soocial either. But it is only a contact management utility. It doesn't do calendar items, which isn't surprising as they are much trickier to sync and almost invariably generate duplicates when synced birectionally.

    You don't need to run Exchange on your own server. There are hosted Exchange plans where you get full use of a BES, costing about $10/month (yeah, MobileMe offers more for less, but then that's your choice). I can hardly recommend one BES provider in particular, but just Google "hosted Exchange server" and you should get plenty of choices.
  • jomilla · 11 months ago
    I have Soocial, and its pretty weak IMHO.